Sewing With All 5 Senses Part 2: Sound, Smell, and Taste

Podcast Transcript

Sarai

Welcome back to Seamwork Radio, where we share practical ideas for building a creative process so you can sew with intention and joy. This is part two of a two-part series called Sewing with All Five Senses. We are such sensory-seeking creatures. In very direct ways, sewing feeds our sense of sight and our sense of touch. But if you can find ways to stimulate all of your senses when you're sewing, it can become an even more radical form of self-care than it already is. Last week, we talked about how to intentionally enhance your sense of sight and touch, which are the two senses we experience the strongest when we're sewing. And today, we're going to talk about the other three senses: sound, smell, and taste. So we'll cover what elements play into these senses, and we're going to give you tips for how to embrace what feels good for you. Well, we're going to start with my favorite sense as we get into our icebreaker. And I'm going to ask you, Haley, what your favorite sewing snack is.

Haley

I talked about this in the last episode, but I'm really bad at remembering to eat when I'm sewing. But I am an absolute beverage goblin. I need to have at least two beverages all the time when I'm sewing. Water. Because I'm from the desert and I take hydrating incredibly seriously. My life depends on it. But then I need a fun beverage. I want a tea, a coffee, something like kombucha. On occasion, I'll have a glass of wine when I'm sewing if the mood strikes, but not very often. But I love a little bevy.

Sarai

Yeah, I do, too. Not wine, usually. Well, I don't drink a lot of wine, but I did the other night. I brought a glass of wine into the bedroom. We were watching a show in bed and knocked it over onto the carpet.

Haley

You're like, this is why I don't do this.

Sarai

This is the one time in the last six months, I brought a glass of wine in there and I knocked it into the carpet. So now I think maybe it wouldn't mix too well with sewing, given my klutzy nature. But I agree about beverages in general. I like to have a nice fancy beverage, usually tea. I bring some tea with me often when I go to sew. Just makes me feel cozy.

Haley

The trouble with a hot beverage, though, is that it always goes cold before I finish it. So I do tend towards a cold beverage most of the time for that reason.

Sarai

They make those little things that keep your beverage hot. Almost like a tiny hot plate kind of thing, I think.

Haley

Yeah. Maybe I need one of those, or maybe I just need to put it in a thermos.

Sarai

Yeah. Thermoses work pretty well. I think my favorite sewing snack, honestly, it's not very exciting. I usually bring a protein bar with me when I sew because it keeps me going for a long time. It keeps me full for a long time. I don't know. It's a bit of a processed snack, so probably be better if I had something a little less processed, but it helps me keep going. When I'm sewing, I want to usually sew for as long as I can.

Haley

It's stamina.

Sarai

Yeah, stamina. Exactly.

Haley

I will say that I think that the preferred snack in our office, because we do keep some snacks around, is peanut butter pretzels always seem to be in heavy rotation when we're sewing and filming and doing all of the things.

Sarai

Yeah. They're so addictive, though.

Haley

That's a fun seamwork fact.

Sarai

Yeah. I just love them. But once I start eating them, it's really hard to stop because they're so good.

Haley

I can't eat them directly out of the bag. I put them in one of our little tea cups.

Sarai

I do that, and then I go back for more because they're so addictive. I love peanut butter. I love salt. I love crunchy things. They're just the perfect snack.

Haley

I just keep buying them because they're the snack that doesn't go stale. We eat them before they go stale.

Sarai

Yeah, I love all of those things. Well, if you want to leave us a question for a future icebreaker, if you're a Seamwork member, just go to seamwork.com/go/icebreakers, and that's going to take you to a thread on our community forum where you can leave your question that we'll use on a future episode.

All right, so let's get into the last three senses of our five senses that we're talking about today. If you missed the first episode, that was all about touch and sight. Those are the senses that we're inherently really focused on when we're sewing. We talked a lot about how to enhance our sense of sight and our sense of touch in the episode previous to this. If you haven't listened to that yet, it's the one right below this in your podcast feed, and you can give that one a listen. But there are three more senses, and by leaning into those and exploring how to integrate those into our sewing practice, we can create something that feels really rich and luxurious for ourselves. So today we want to talk about the less obvious sensory experiences of sewing, which definitely includes snacks.

Haley

Absolutely.

Sarai

So there'll be a lot of snack talk today. There already has been a lot of snack talk today.

Haley

Sarai, what do you think is the benefit of experiencing things on a more sensory level when we're sewing?

Sarai

We talked about this a lot in the last episode, but I think the biggest benefit for me, and this is with sewing or really with life in general, is that when you tune into your senses, you really feel a lot more in your body. It's a great reminder, one, I think, to pay attention to yourself and how you're feeling because feelings manifest in the body. I think that's one thing. But I think it also helps you pay more attention to the world around you as well because the senses are that doorway between your body and the rest of the world. Obviously, paying attention is something that can benefit your sewing in particular as well, because the more attention you're paying, the fewer mistakes you're going to make, the more awareness you're bringing to what you're doing. But I think also the better you feel about it and the more in touch you are with how you're feeling. What about you? What do you think?

Haley

Well, I'm a person who tends towards being anxious. I'm just like, can be a bit of a high-strung person in that way. And sewing, and a lot of my creative hobbies are things that I like to do to relax and connect to my sense of self. I think that when I'm feeling anxious, the best way to de-escalate that feeling and bring me back into that window of tolerance is to feel the feelings of my body and focus on those, rather the feelings of my brain. And by bringing that into my sewing practice in a more intentional way, then I am able to access all of those feel-good feelings more easily and really reap the benefits of my creative practice.

Sarai

Yeah. And just have more fun, I think. Just enjoy it more.

Haley

Yeah, definitely. This is a fun one. What gives you the sensory ick when you're sewing?

Sarai

Cutting my finger with a rotary blade. Anything painful, obviously. And lots of things can be painful when you're sewing from just being uncomfortable generally, sitting for too long or standing too long, all of those things, but also burning yourself with the iron or pricking yourself with a needle while you're hand sewing something. So there's all of those kinds of things where you could possibly experience pain when you're sewing. Yeah. But then there's also the ickiness of certain things, like the feeling of certain fabric or even noises that might really bother you while you're sewing.

Haley

There's lots of metallic noises in sewing.

Sarai

Yeah, things scraping against other things or... all that. What about you? Would you add anything to that?

Haley

Being really hot when I'm sewing?

Sarai

Yeah.

Haley

That's a surefire way to get overwhelmed and start making mistakes is if I get too hot. There's three things. So overheating. The other thing is loose threads on my body. It's like when you have a strand of hair that you can't find.

Sarai

Or like when you walk through a spider web. Yeah.

Haley

Sometimes you You can get that feeling if you're working with something that's really fluffy and leaving little fluffs everywhere, really stringy. And then the other one is the feeling of nylon fabric on my hands, specifically during winter.

Sarai

That's very specific.

Haley

When my hands are dry. Because nylon has a really dry hand to it. That's why it's used in athletic wear so often. It's very wicking. It wicks the moisture right off of you. But if it's wintertime and your hands are already dry, it's very snaggy and almost like a micro Velcro sensation. I can't stand it. So if I'm going to sew athletic wear, I'm going to sew it not when my hands are dry. I'm going to sew that stuff in the summertime when I'm nice and sweaty.

Sarai

Just describing that makes me feel icky.

Haley

I'm glad I was able to really communicate how gross it is. What's your favorite sense outside of sight and touch when you're sewing?

Sarai

I think, I joked that it was snacks earlier. But honestly, I think it's definitely hearing. I think that's really important to me when I'm sewing, and we're going to get into that in a minute. That really helps me to focus, whether it's music or a podcast or whatever. What about you?

Haley

I'm the same. I feel like tapping into my sense of hearing, it creates almost like a little bubble for me, and it really helps me get in the zone.

Sarai

Absolutely. Let's start there. Let's start with talking about sound and hearing for the first sense that we're going to discuss today and how to enhance those while you're sewing and really tune into those while you're sewing and use that sense to its best advantage to make you feel good while you're sewing. The first tip is to decide if you're more of a silenced person or more of a sound person when you're sewing, because there's really no wrong answer there. This can also, I think, vary depending on your mood. Generally, I would say I'm a sound person, but sometimes you just want silence. Sometimes you just need things to be quiet for a little while, and that is totally okay. It's something you can decide in the moment, too. But if you do like silence, generally, or if you just need a little bit of a break from sound, some noise canceling headphones can be really helpful if you don't have the luxury of a quiet home. It can be a real lifesaver. A lot of less expensive headphones now have a noise canceling feature on them. They used to be really expensive. I feel like noise canceling headphones used to be super expensive.

The good ones, I guess, still are probably. But there's a lot of options now for noise canceling headphones. That's something that can really help you out. Then you can use them for music, too, or for podcasts or whatever you want to listen to as well. But if you're not listening to something, you do just want silence for a little while, you can just turn on the noise canceling feature and have a little bit more quiet than you might otherwise have.

You could also use a sound machine or ambient noise can block unwanted sounds, so that can help to create some white noise. If you have a lot of other sounds going on in your house, it can just create not silence per se, but something a little bit closer to silence than what you might otherwise have.

But if you do like listening to something when you sew, obviously, you've got a lot of options to listen to. So obviously, podcasts. Some of you might be listening right now as you're sewing. I personally love listening to podcasts while I sew. It's probably one of the main ways I listen to podcasts is while I'm sewing.

I like it because it has the right level of casualness and entertainment without being overwhelming. If you stopping attention for a minute. It's okay. You can pick up again, usually. So I like it. Sometimes I'm listening to more storytelling podcasts. I think podcasters, generally, you have more discussion podcasts like we're having here today. Those are things that are very easy to listen to casually, and you can dip in and out mentally a little bit. But the storytelling podcasts, I feel like if they're done well, they really capture your attention very well. That's one of the reasons I really like listening to those kinds of podcasts, the more narrative podcast, while I'm sewing as well, because they do capture my attention, especially if I'm doing something that's a little bit boring to me. Like cutting is a little bit boring to me. I can zone out and just listen. So I like that a lot.

Are there any podcasts in particular you like to listen to when you sew, Haley?

Haley

I actually am not big on podcasts while I'm sewing. As someone who's on a sewing podcast, it's funny. I think it's because I find my attention pulled towards my sewing so often that I can find it a little bit frustrating. So I tend to not do audiobooks or podcasts as much. I tend to listen to music or ambient music.

Sarai

Interesting. The other thing that Haley just mentioned, which I think is, if you're like me and you do like to listen to something more narrative, are audiobooks. I think that's another really great choice. Personally, I get audiobooks from the library and listen to those once in a while. It has to be the right book to make a good audiobook for me, though. I've found that I've listened to a lot of non-fiction, and I just feel like, oh, I want to remember this, or I want to take notes on this, and then it takes me out of it. So I like something that's a little bit more, even if it is non-fiction, something that's a little bit more narrative and less informational, I guess.

Haley

Yeah, I do love a memoir or something, especially if it's read by the author. It's my favorite type of audiobook.

Sarai

Yeah, I was telling you earlier, Haley, that I just finished listening to Kevin Smith's memoir as an audiobook. Really vulgar. If you don't like crass humor, then maybe avoid it. But for those of you who don't know, Kevin Smith is a film director. He directed Clerks and a lot of other things, Chasing Amy. I thought it was really interesting just from a storytelling and movie-making perspective, just something I'm interested in. But it was really fun to listen to, and I agree. If it's read by the author, the memoirist, then it's even better.

Haley

I'm listening to Julia Fox's Down the Drain right now. Also really graphic, so content warning there. And she has the most insane vocal fry. I get feedback on my vocal fry. She's on a whole other level. But I think I could listen to that while sewing because it's so just over the top. I think that I would have trouble sewing, though. Too distracting.

Sarai

Sometimes when things are really funny, I love Conan's podcast, Conan O'Brien's podcast, too. Sometimes the humor, though, is so funny that it distracts me from my sewing.

Haley

What am I doing?

Sarai

Yeah. He's my favorite.

The other thing is TV or a movie in the background. I've done this sometimes. I used to watch The Office a lot while I was sewing, something that can occupy me without being too involving. Sometimes I'll do that. Or you could just have a killer sewing playlist. Just make a specific playlist for yourself that's for sewing. I also have a record player in my sewing room, so I often listen to records. It's nice because you have to flip the record, so that provides a natural break for where you have to stop what you're doing every 30 minutes or so. You might not like that, but maybe you do. So I don't mind it. And I like the sound of a record, and I like a chance to listen to my records, too.

Haley

Yeah, I need to move mine to my sewing room. I feel like I would enjoy that.

Sarai

It's very cozy.

Haley

It is cozy. And every time I try to listen to a record in my living room, then Charlie is just trying to touch it when I'm not looking.

Sarai

Yeah, it's nice because this takes my records away from any animals that are in my house. I don't know why, but for some reason, our cats, not just our current cats, our last cats, too, love to pull out records and chew on them. I don't know what that is, the plastic sheet over them.

Haley

Oh, my gosh.

Sarai

I don't know why.

Haley

Drive me nuts.

Well, I'm going to dive into smell. I'm a smell person. I'm very particular about smell, so I'm excited that I get to cover this part. I think that the first thing here is to identify whether you are a fragrance person or not. Sarai, are you a fragrance person?

Sarai

Yes, I love smells.

Haley

Whether or not you are a fragrance person, there are some inherent smells involved in sewing. Lots of fabric has a strong smell to it. If you buy vintage or thrifted fabric, you can get a mothball smell, just stale smell. And even new fabrics can have a really strong chemical smell to them. So considering the smell of your fabric and treating them accordingly, some of the tricks you can use for this are, of course, prewashing your fabric. You can wash it in vinegar. You could also buy special detergents from places like Dharma, which is a company that does a lot of fiber arts detergents that are specific for removing any treatments that are on fabric so that they're ready to be died. But I find that those... I'm trying to remember the the name of the detergent that they sell.

Sarai

I know the one you're talking about, but I can't remember the name.

Haley

It's so good at just removing fabric stink. Also, you can pre-wash your fabric in vinegar, and some good old sunshine goes a long way in removing smells. Just beware of sun bleaching and proceed with caution if you're working with something that's a little bit darker.

Sarai

Yeah. Just while you're talking, I was thinking about that thrift store smell and how some fabrics or clothing that you get from the thrift store can have that weird smell. I don't even know that smell is exactly, but it's very particular.

Haley

I don't want to think about it too hard, what the smell is, because I have some ideas. Also, just giving things a bath and letting it soak can really go a long way, because whether you're a fragrance person or not, no one wants to smell funky. And then if you are a fragrance person, then you can think about some ways that you can bring pleasant fragrance into your space. You can use a scent diffuser. That's my preferred method in my sewing space. You can light a candle. Proceed with caution. There's lots of flammable things. Keep it away from any hanging threads. Mix yourself a little room spray with some water and your favorite essential oils. These are all ways you can bring some pleasant fragrance. Also along the lines of just keeping things fresh, smelling and not stanky, I like to make sure, I think our sewing spaces are really inherently dusty. Fabric is really dusty thing. We're storing our fabric, we're cutting it. So I like to make sure that I'm sweeping and vacuuming with some regularity. I recently have become a big air filter nerd, and I have a couple in my house that I rotate, and I make sure to bring it up to my sewing room a couple of times a month to just clear it out a little bit.

Sarai

That's a great idea. I should do that in our sewing room. We have one in our bedroom, and it does help a lot. And you can hear it going. If I'm cooking and I burn something or it gets smoky or whatever, you can hear it really pick up steam.

Haley

Yeah, I got one originally for my basement because it just had basement smell. And I was a little bit skeptical. It made such a huge improvement, though. So, yeah, get you one if you can. Remembering to open up windows. I don't know if this was just my household growing up, but my mom was really adamant about opening windows at all times of the year for an hour every night just to let in the fresh air. And this is something I still do as an adult, and it really helps in my sewing space. And then, of course, you can use some sachets. You could even sew your own. And that has the added benefit of keeping any little pests away, especially if you use something like cedar chips.

Sarai

Yeah. There are a lot of things you can use for sachets. I had one that was Douglas fir sachet for a while. It's really nice. Nice scent. The cedar is really nice, obviously. It smells good and it keeps bugs away. I like that idea.

All right, well, let's get into the final one, which is another favorite of mine, taste. We mentioned this in the last episode, but sometimes, I know this happens to me, Haley mentioned it happened to you, that you forget to eat. Sometimes we forget to even drink water when we're sewing. It's important not to do that, I think. It's very easy for me to forget to eat. That happens to me all the time when I'm getting really involved in something, even though I love food and I love eating and I do not like being hungry, I will put off eating in order to finish whatever I'm doing. That inevitably leads to mistakes and crankiness and just discomfort. This is really all about, a lot of this comes down to ensuring your comfort through your five senses while you're sewing, because that's what's going to allow you to enjoy the process a lot more and not focus on those bad feelings.

We can create a little sewing beverage and snack menu before you sit down at your machine. That can be really helpful. Maybe seek out some either stimulating or calming beverages, depending on how you're feeling. Haley mentioned earlier, having a few of them, water and then something else that you just enjoy. One thing I've been enjoying lately, you mentioned kombucha earlier, which I'm a big fan of kombucha and sour things in general, but I made a blackberry shrub recently. You can make it from almost any fruit, I believe. It's very easy to make. It's basically just macerated fruit with vinegar and sugar. You just add a tablespoon or so to some fizzy water, and it makes a sour vinegar, sweet sour vinegar drink that tastes a little bit like kombucha. Really easy to make, really delicious, and it gets me to drink more water, which is always a good thing for me. That can be helpful. I also like to have a really big bottle of water that helps me to drink more water. I'm not fantastic about drinking water naturally, so I have to give myself some little pushes to drink more water. I also really like herbal teas. They help me to stay hydrated as well. Those are some things that you can do to just make sure that you're hydrated while you're sewing and also just enjoy your sense of taste a little bit more as you're sewing.

Then you can also keep some non-messy finger foods in your sewing space to help when you forget to eat. There's a lot of things you can do there. Granola, trail mix, we mentioned peanut butter pretzels earlier. In the last episode, we mentioned chocolate. I feel like a lot of my snacks have chocolate in them, which is not the most non-messy thing.

Haley

Proceed with caution.

Sarai

But it is delicious, and I do tend to eat a lot of it.

You can also set an alarm for snack breaks if you're somebody who tends to forget to eat and just make sure that you're doing that. I also mentioned in the last episode this block method that I'm doing sometimes in order to get myself into a short session of something creative. I often tell myself that I need 2 hours, 3 hours, 4 hours in order to do something. But you can get a lot done in small increments as well. That's what I'm trying to do a little bit. Setting alarms and setting timers for myself has been really, really helpful. You can do that just for remembering to eat if you need to do that. But also, I think just having this little block of time will naturally create breaks for you. So that's one of my little tips that I've learned more recently. That's very helpful for me.

Haley

Yeah. I think another way that I remind myself to nourish my body when I'm sewing is I just bring my little snack up, my sewing space is upstairs. I bring my little snack and my beverage upstairs. And as I sit and ponder what I'm going to work on and what steps and tools and all of that stuff, then I have my little snack. It's like my little intro, my starting ritual.

Sarai

That's nice. You have a little tray or a basket, I remember, in your sewing space that you can fill with snacks.

Haley

I do.

Sarai

That's smart. That's a smart thing to do. I should prepare a little snack basket myself. That would be fun. A little sewing charcuterie board to bring with you. Wouldn't that be fun?

Haley

That would be really cute. I'm really big on snack baskets. Anytime someone, a guest, stays at my house, I always make them a snack basket.

Sarai

What a great host.

Yeah, I like that idea of a sewing charcuterie. It just reminded me of, I was looking at this book that Robin told me about. Robin's our pattern maker, and she told me about this book that I got. It's Barkuterie. It's like, charcuteries you can make for your dog. I thought it was so funny, and Ken got it for me, I think, for Christmas after that. I was just looking at it the other day because it has recipes for making your own dog treats, which is why I wanted it. But it's full of these really hilarious images of, first of all, these barkcuterie boards, like these fancy boards that you know a dog would demolish in a minute. And these two little corgies dressed up in different outfits to go with the theme of each of each platter?

Haley

I love that.

Sarai

It's pretty ridiculous.

Haley

When I lived in LA, my roommate worked at a dog bakery, and they sold birthday cakes for dogs, and they were like, multi-hundred dollar birthday cakes for dogs.

Sarai

Oh my goodness.

Haley

And I just... I'm like, that dog is just going to devour it in seconds.

Sarai

You could have just given him a jar of peanut butter.

Haley

Exactly. That's LA for you.

Sarai

Yeah, it's for the people. I once bought my parents' dog... We passed by this fancy dog bakery, and I went in and they had this little... It looked like a Hostice Cupcake, you know? But for dogs, it was a dollar or two. So I got it for her, and she turned her nose up at it. She didn't want it at all.

Haley

She's like, I want ground beef. What is this noise?

Sarai

My uncle's little dog ate it instead. All right, enough about dog snacks.

Let me recap what we covered in this episode. In this episode, we talked about the three senses that you might not think about as much when you're sewing. We shared tips for how to incorporate sound in your sewing space. First, you have to figure out if you prefer sound or silence. Then we shared some options for ensuring quiet and some ideas for inspiring sounds like podcasts, music, and audiobooks. Then we shared tips for enhancing smell, whether you do or you don't enjoy fragrance. Finally, we shared tips for staying properly fed and hydrated while you're sewing, speaking to our sense of taste. So what's your big takeaway from today's episode, Haley?

Haley

I think that my big takeaway is at the beginning of the episode, I said that sense of sound and hearing is probably my second most favorite sense when I'm sewing. And now I think after talking about scent, I'm like, maybe I'm just a scent person. And it made me realize all of the ways that I really actively focus on making sure that my space smells really nice. I'm also a little bit of a clean freak, so it feeds into that as well.

Sarai

Well, I think scent is so tied to memory in our minds that it makes sense. I think for me, a lot of sewing is about creating memories for myself, both in the process of sewing and then with the garment that I'm making that I get to then wear in my life. And so I think that makes a lot of sense that scent would become part of that.

Haley

It's very tied to emotion in a way that, I guess, sound and music is as well, but maybe in a slightly more visceral way for me.

Sarai

I would still go with the sound for me. I still I think that that's probably the most important. I really like listening to music, and I like listening to podcasts and audiobooks, depending on my mood. I still think sound is it for me.

My big takeaway, I think from today's episode is, focusing on what will be right for you in that moment. Sometimes that changes depending on your mood and depending on the day and depending on what you're working on. You can tailor your experience sewing and your overall experience with all of your senses to however you're feeling at that moment. So that could mean some days are silence days, some days are music days, some days are podcast days, for example. And the same is true for the other senses as well. And I think that's an interesting framing for it and a way to think about how to create the right mood for yourself at any given time or on any given day.

Haley

And what a beautiful way of checking in with yourself and honoring where you're at in the moment instead of just mindlessly copying and pasting the same ritual time after time.

Sarai

Yeah, I like that idea.

All right.

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Haley

And I'm Haley.

Sarai

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